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	<title>Comments on: LiveCycle ES vs LiveCycle DS vs BlazeDS &#8211; clearing up the confusion</title>
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		<title>By: Raju Arora</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator>Raju Arora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
  Anne Kathrine Petteroe is coming this Aug at Adobe Flash Platform Summit 2010 to Speaks on Enterprise Rich Internet Applications with the Adobe Flash Platform. The summit will take place on 25  and 26 Aug&#039;10. For details log on to adobesummit.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
  Anne Kathrine Petteroe is coming this Aug at Adobe Flash Platform Summit 2010 to Speaks on Enterprise Rich Internet Applications with the Adobe Flash Platform. The summit will take place on 25  and 26 Aug&#8217;10. For details log on to adobesummit.com</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2074</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank YOu!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank YOu!</p>
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		<title>By: Game g = new Game(); &#187; A Praise for BlazeDS?</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator>Game g = new Game(); &#187; A Praise for BlazeDS?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 15:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there is a great post about the differences of the various flavors and licensing details, as well as another [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flex Remote Object Services - BlazeDS &#124; Summa Blog</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2072</link>
		<dc:creator>Flex Remote Object Services - BlazeDS &#124; Summa Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unlike LCDS, BlazeDS does not provide true push functionality through Adobe’s Real Time Messaging Protocol (RTMP) which creates a constant connection between itself and the client. BlazeDS is open source, and since RTMP isn&#8217;t, it is not available as a channel in the BlazeDS configuration files. One option for implementing push messaging in BlazeDS is to create a channel for AMF polling, configure the settings for polling, and then define your message producers and consumers. More details around how BlazeDS is different from LCDS are available here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Unlike LCDS, BlazeDS does not provide true push functionality through Adobe’s Real Time Messaging Protocol (RTMP) which creates a constant connection between itself and the client. BlazeDS is open source, and since RTMP isn&#8217;t, it is not available as a channel in the BlazeDS configuration files. One option for implementing push messaging in BlazeDS is to create a channel for AMF polling, configure the settings for polling, and then define your message producers and consumers. More details around how BlazeDS is different from LCDS are available here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tomislav Pokrajcic</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2071</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomislav Pokrajcic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to mentioned LCDS Single-CPU has following limitations:
&quot;The free download version of LiveCycle Data Services ES Single-CPU License does not include LiveCycle Remoting for easy integration with LiveCycle document and process services. In addition, the generated PDF documents using the new RIA-to-PDF feature are watermarked in the LiveCycle Data Services ES Single-CPU License version.&quot;
(http://www.adobe.com/products/livecycle/dataservices/faq.html)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to mentioned LCDS Single-CPU has following limitations:<br />
&#8220;The free download version of LiveCycle Data Services ES Single-CPU License does not include LiveCycle Remoting for easy integration with LiveCycle document and process services. In addition, the generated PDF documents using the new RIA-to-PDF feature are watermarked in the LiveCycle Data Services ES Single-CPU License version.&#8221;<br />
(<a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/livecycle/dataservices/faq.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/products/livecycle/dataservices/faq.html</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: LiveCycle ES vs LiveCycle DS vs BlazeDS - clearing up the confusion &#171; Alaguvel&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2070</link>
		<dc:creator>LiveCycle ES vs LiveCycle DS vs BlazeDS - clearing up the confusion &#171; Alaguvel&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As you probably know, Flex Data Services was recently renamed to LiveCycle Data Services ES, commonly referred to as LiveCycle DS. However, this name change has confused a lot of people because there was already a set of products named LiveCycle Enterprise Suite, commonly referred to as LiveCycle ES. After talking to many people at 360Flex and other events, I’ve concluded that the distinction and relationship between these is a bit muddy for most. more.. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As you probably know, Flex Data Services was recently renamed to LiveCycle Data Services ES, commonly referred to as LiveCycle DS. However, this name change has confused a lot of people because there was already a set of products named LiveCycle Enterprise Suite, commonly referred to as LiveCycle ES. After talking to many people at 360Flex and other events, I’ve concluded that the distinction and relationship between these is a bit muddy for most. more.. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spesoulge</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2069</link>
		<dc:creator>spesoulge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: David S.</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2068</link>
		<dc:creator>David S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for putting this together, it was very helpful.

But one question. So with ColdFusion 8 Enterprise, does CF8 only provide LCDS adapters built-in that (somehow) need to connect with an LCDS/BlazeDS installation running seperately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting this together, it was very helpful.</p>
<p>But one question. So with ColdFusion 8 Enterprise, does CF8 only provide LCDS adapters built-in that (somehow) need to connect with an LCDS/BlazeDS installation running seperately?</p>
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		<title>By: andrej770</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2067</link>
		<dc:creator>andrej770</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff, A simple search on google with CF8 and Flex leads to tons of links on how to do data push.  Some even come with video and instructions.  See the example below

http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/calendar/8032915/

andre770</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff, A simple search on google with CF8 and Flex leads to tons of links on how to do data push.  Some even come with video and instructions.  See the example below</p>
<p><a href="http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/calendar/8032915/" rel="nofollow">http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/calendar/8032915/</a></p>
<p>andre770</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2066</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would think someone who have a good simple example of how to do data push with cf8 and flex 3.  Have found one that works yet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think someone who have a good simple example of how to do data push with cf8 and flex 3.  Have found one that works yet</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2065</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article referenced is two years old it Does Not Talk about CF8 rather CFmx7 ..........Ben Forta has an article about CF8 and Data Services that I think you will find helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article referenced is two years old it Does Not Talk about CF8 rather CFmx7 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Ben Forta has an article about CF8 and Data Services that I think you will find helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: LiveCycle Data Services ES Express and LiveCycle Data Services ES Single-CPU License : Mihai CORLAN</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2064</link>
		<dc:creator>LiveCycle Data Services ES Express and LiveCycle Data Services ES Single-CPU License : Mihai CORLAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What happened to &#8220;LiveCycle Data Services ES Express&#8221; for example) and this is a great post that explains the LCDS and BlazeDS products and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2063</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, do you have the trascript fo the video you did located here: https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/livecycledevoverview1/ ??

The video was exactly what I was looking for and the visuals went by a little too quick and I personally am a reader more than a listener. If you do could you please email them to me or post them here for download ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, do you have the trascript fo the video you did located here: <a href="https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/livecycledevoverview1/" rel="nofollow">https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/livecycledevoverview1/</a> ??</p>
<p>The video was exactly what I was looking for and the visuals went by a little too quick and I personally am a reader more than a listener. If you do could you please email them to me or post them here for download ?</p>
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		<title>By: FlexLive.net &#187; BlazeDS Tutorials</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2062</link>
		<dc:creator>FlexLive.net &#187; BlazeDS Tutorials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about the BlazeDS and LiveCycle DS licensing terms? Greg Wilson has an excellent article that compares the product [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gregorywilson</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2061</link>
		<dc:creator>gregorywilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sami - Very good question - I understand your confusion


ColdFusion 8 Enterprise does not include a full license of LiveCycle Data Services.  If does have the ability to integrate with LiveCycle DS but does not include it.


You could obviously use LiveCycle DS Express but you are restricted to a single application on a single CPU.  You can also use BlazeDS which is free.


Here is the complete matrix - http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/cf8_featurecomp.pdf


Notice the &quot;*&quot; beside LiveCycle Data Services - see the text at the bottom beside the &quot;*&quot;.


Ben Forta has an article about CF8 and Data Services that I think you will find helpful - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/fr_fds.html

Thanks!

Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sami &#8211; Very good question &#8211; I understand your confusion</p>
<p>ColdFusion 8 Enterprise does not include a full license of LiveCycle Data Services.  If does have the ability to integrate with LiveCycle DS but does not include it.</p>
<p>You could obviously use LiveCycle DS Express but you are restricted to a single application on a single CPU.  You can also use BlazeDS which is free.</p>
<p>Here is the complete matrix &#8211; <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/cf8_featurecomp.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/cf8_featurecomp.pdf</a></p>
<p>Notice the &#8220;*&#8221; beside LiveCycle Data Services &#8211; see the text at the bottom beside the &#8220;*&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ben Forta has an article about CF8 and Data Services that I think you will find helpful &#8211; <a href="http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/fr_fds.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/fr_fds.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Sami Hoda</title>
		<link>http://gregsramblings.com/2008/03/27/livecycle-ds-vs-livecycle-es-clearing-up-the-confusion/#comment-2060</link>
		<dc:creator>Sami Hoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which one does ColdFusion 8 Enterprise come with in built then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which one does ColdFusion 8 Enterprise come with in built then?</p>
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